Labour is trying to force a by-election

by Whaleoil on July 30, 2010 · 6 comments

Labour leader Phil Goff says ousted MP Chris Carter doesn’t have a man­date to remain as MP for Te Atatu.

Mr Carter was thrown out of the Labour cau­cus yes­ter­day on a unan­i­mous vote after send­ing an unsigned let­ter to media rep­re­sen­ta­tives in an attempt to under­mine Mr Goff’s leadership.

Spectacular….this is going to be a mas­sive filip for National in the polls. Peo­ple do not like nasty blood-letting.

As I said yes­ter­day if I was Chris Carter I would resign and force the broke, busted, dis-united Labour Party try and fight me off.

Mr Goff told reporters in Auck­land today Mr Carter should recon­sider that.

That deci­sion con­sti­tu­tion­ally is his, but he was elected as a Labour MP and he no longer has that man­date. He needs to reflect on that,” Mr Goff said.

I think that he does not have a man­date to be the Mem­ber of Par­lia­ment for Te Atatu, given the with­drawal of sup­port from the Labour Party.”

This is impor­tant here for Goff, at the moment Chris Carter is still a Labour MP. They haven’t thrown him out of the party. Does Phil Goff have the stones to take that step. Until he does then all this talk is sim­ple blus­ter as the two men stare each other down.

It also looks like Phil Twyford, the hap­less Mem­ber for the home­less, has been spiked again.

When Labour’s national coun­cil meets in a week’s time it is almost cer­tain to sus­pend Mr Carter’s party mem­ber­ship. A new Te Atatu can­di­date would then have to be selected for the next election.

Radio New Zealand‘s polit­i­cal staff say it seems likely the party will look out­side its cau­cus for a candidate.

Mr Carter says he’ll stay as on as an inde­pen­dent MP until the next elec­tion, but will give his vote to Labour.

This is going to be the tough­est part for Labour because the LEC chair is Peter Kaiser. If he stands firm then Labour will have a prob­lem with selec­tions. it is clear though that they intend to strip Chris Carter of his nom­i­na­tion for Te Atatu and to also find a replace­ment can­di­date mean­ing almost cer­tainly he is about to be Taito’d, chucked igno­min­iously from the Labour party, for speak­ing the truth.

The most telling for Labour is their utter para­noia of the “Tizard Effect”. Their ret­i­cence to talk about a sit­ting MP tak­ing the nom­i­na­tion shows just how deeply un-popular Judith Tizard is.

For me though I think the most appalling stance taken by Labour is to ques­tion Chris Carter’s men­tal health, and to ques­tion it openly. This shows just how car­ing and shar­ing the Labour party really is, they are busily try­ing to spin and knife Chris Carter by now label­ing him as men­tal. Phil Goff doesn’t deserve to be leader if this is to be their strat­egy to side-line Chris Carter.

Labour is in a real pickle. It is clear from my dis­cus­sions with some Labour cau­cus mem­bers that Carter is both right and wrong. Let me explain, Chris Carter is right in say­ing that no-one thinks that Labour can win the next elec­tion, with Phil goff or any­one else for that mat­ter, he is wrong though that cau­cus thinks there is some­one else who could do bet­ter, there sim­ply isn’t. Not a sin­gle name has been prof­fered to me as a sug­gested replace­ment for Phil. The over­all feel­ing seems to be that like him or loathe Phil Goff is the leader only in the absence of any­one else.

One thing about Helen Clark, she ruled cau­cus with an iron fist, Phil Goff has let this get away on him.

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inventory2 July 30, 2010 at 6:55 pm

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One News named Greg “mick­ysav­age” Pres­land as a con­tender for the seat. It’ll be fun going back through The Stan­dard and Kiwiblog archives find­ing some of his gems if he stands!

But there’s not going to be a by-election. Can you REALLY imag­ine Chris Carter turn­ing down a $140k salary, $14k in tax-free perks, free travel and all the rest?

notrotsky July 30, 2010 at 7:01 pm

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Yes I saw Mick­eysav­age men­tioned as a con­tender as well IV2, FFS the pool of polit­i­cal tal­ent in this coun­try is a joke, between these clowns and the fuck­tards run­ning for mayor in the supercity it makes you won­der what we’ve done to offend the almighty.

thor42 July 30, 2010 at 7:47 pm

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Does Phil Goff have the “stones” to take that step?” (throw­ing Carter out of the party)
No.
Goff has as many balls as a herd of cows.

orangeroughy64 July 30, 2010 at 8:18 pm

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Cor­rect me if I’m wrong, but I thought Chris Carter was pop­u­lar in Te Atatu as he worked his elec­torate well. And why is Trevor Mal­lard giv­ing inter­views about Carter? I heard Mal­lard on Radio NZ men­tion­ing some­thing about a trip to Tibet and that Carter hadn’t told the Labour Cau­cus about it. So how did Mal­lard know?
Also heard some­one on Radio Live say­ing that Dar­ren Hughes is in line for the lead­er­ship. ROFL.

pauleastbay July 30, 2010 at 8:29 pm

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There would be more chance of peo­ple in Chile or the Uk or any­where (Wai­heke) know­ing Carter see­ing as he has spent more time in those places than his electorate.

Lets be hon­est Te Atatu even now with the Penin­sula instead of Te Atatu North is decid­edly uncool when you are a globe trot­ting bludger .

Times are tough when your les­bian men­tor moves to New York and leaves you with­out proper instruc­tions about to be a C**t to the peo­ple you work with

mediatart July 31, 2010 at 8:30 am

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The pre­vi­ous National can­di­date ‚and list MP is Tau Henare. Thats right the ser­ial party hop­per
” I dont care which party as long as Im an MP

But it getts bet­ter ( the credit card spend­ing records dont go back to the time he was a Min­is­ter in the Bolger/Shipley years – but could be found?)
henare was part of the liitle cabal in get­ting Donna Awa­teres fund­ing through the labyrinthe of approval pro­ce­dures, which of course Eng­lish and Henare were party to. Break­ing the rules as the Audi­tor Gen­eral found out. Back in those days the AG had balls , not like now.
The rea­sons why Labour wants a by elec­tion now, are
1) Money , they like National dont have any, but this will bring money in ( Just like Mt Albert by elec­tion Labour raised far more than they spent, while for National , ACT, greens it was the oppo­site)
2)Did I say it would raise money
3) Tau Henare, will National stiff him, and deny him an elec­torate in all­ready lives in ??
4) Pro­file , it will raise labours and Goffs ‘face time in the media’, while Key of course will sup­port their can­di­date only if they are win­ning , and then piss off to Hawaii

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