Chris Carter as an independent?

by Whaleoil on July 29, 2010 · 11 comments

Could Chris Carter win a by elec­tion as an Inde­pen­dent? Probably.

The logic is pretty sim­ple. If Labour put up a can­di­date, Chris stands, and National’s vote stays where it was in 2008, National would win. So Labour would not run a can­di­date, as National did not against the un-flushable gro­gan, Win­ston Ray­mond Peters, 65, Pen­sioner of no fixed abode, in 1993 in Tau­ranga.

Te Atatu is def­i­nitely in play now, either imme­di­ately in a by-election or next year in the gen­eral elec­tion. In 2008 the party vote in Te Atatu was:

Labour 13,171
National 13,183

That Chris Carter won hand­ily with a greater vote than Labour itself shows how effec­tive as a local MP he is com­pared with the tide run­ning out on Labour. He is now in the same posi­tion as Taito Philip Field was when he openly declared war against the party. If Labour chucks him out, remem­ber cor­rup­tion is ok, but dis­loy­alty gets you chucked out, then Labour has more than a cou­ple of problems.

  1. They need to select a new can­di­date, Phil Twyford is the obvi­ous choice, but then again he has had 4 cracks already and a fifth would be the death knell for him. He is dis­liked by the union fac­tion though and would strug­gle to gain selection.
  2. Peter Kaiser, Chris Carter’s part­ner is also the chair of the LEC. This is prob­lem­atic in try­ing to pick a new can­di­date, because the elec­torate organ­i­sa­tion is solidly behind Chris Carter and if they stay put then Head Office faces an embar­rass­ment in over-riding the demo­c­ra­t­i­cally elected LEC.
  3. If Twyford, by a minor mir­a­cle did end up win­ning a by-election then Labour has the Tizard effect come into play again.
  4. Chris Carter will not be alone. That he got sprung and blew the coup before they all lined up behind Cun­liffe is prob­lem­atic. But you can be sure that Carter’s thoughts are not alone. Phil Goff is only leader today because the leaked let­ter was sup­posed to run a few days in the press in order to de-stabilise, all ready for cau­cus on Tues­day when the knife would have gone in. Goff has only post­poned that. It is inevitable that he will be knifed, it is now only a mat­ter of when.

National too has prob­lems. If I was Chris Carter con­tem­plat­ing stick­ing it up Labour then I would resign right now and force a by-election. Tau Henare can’t beat Chris Carter and right now he is the only per­son named for Te Atatu. If National decided on select­ing another can­di­date then time starts expir­ing pretty quickly in sourc­ing a qual­ity can­di­date who could take on Chris Carter in Te Atatu. If National ran Tau Henare then Chris Carter would be returned as an inde­pen­dent eas­ily defeat­ing any­one Labour cares to put up.

Pol­i­tics just got very, very interesting.

As for Chris Carter, I extend to him a free post, unedited, on what­ever her would like to say, in order to get his story across with­out spin. Take this offer as part of my mea culpa for my pre­vi­ous error over the phone bills affair. I’d love to present his story un-filtered by the con­straints of the MSM formats.

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inventory2 July 29, 2010 at 9:04 pm

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You over­look one small fact Cam. Labour can­not force Carter to resign from Te Atatu. Carter is the duly elected Te Atatu MP, not Labour’s Te Atatu MP. Think Philip Field (Inde­pen­dant – Man­gere). Why would Carter resign as an MP, even if Labour expel him?

michaels July 29, 2010 at 10:02 pm

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Stand up Michael Jones!!!!!!!

gooner July 29, 2010 at 10:14 pm

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Hate to spoil the party, but the Gnats were look­ing at Mt Albert party vote num­bers before that by-election also and look how that turned out!

grizz July 30, 2010 at 1:23 am

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Melissa Lee turned out to be poor at pol­i­tics. The trou­ble with any by-election in Auck­land will be the Labour rent-a-mob who will spoil any National Candidate’s cam­paign. How­ever a good can­di­date from the start will be use­ful. Some­one who does not buckle under the hard con­fronting ques­tions and some­one who does not sug­gest or imply that all dark­ies from South Auck­land are crim­i­nals. Per­haps Jones does have the Mana to out­flank the red car­pet bag­gers. I cer­tainly would not run with the dead­fish Henare.

whalewatcher July 30, 2010 at 4:49 am

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from recent pho­tos of the bug­ger, I reckon he’s got The virus

and that’d explain the death wish.

whalewatcher July 30, 2010 at 7:04 am

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I’ve just seen Prissy Carter’s sour-grapes moan to Granny Her­ald on the web

I love watch­ing these fatu­ous waste-of-space tossers self-destructing.
The show rolls on…

how low will they go?

timboh July 30, 2010 at 8:57 am

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Don’t let that idiot use your blog as a plat­form to try and defend his actions. Anony­mous let­ters is the refuge of a scoundrel and cow­ard. He got the sulk because he was rep­ri­manded by Goff for a trip to Tibet. He has a his­tory of thiev­ing tax­payer money, using it to live the high life which as a for­mer teacher he could only dream about. No more pro­tec­tion from the She­Beast and he is act­ing like a sulky girl. He even had the hide to say on TV last night that by using his hand­writ­ing was proof that he didn’t really mind get­ting outed as the writer (almost part of the plan so to speak). He can pol­ish a turd all he likes but it is still a turd.

kram July 30, 2010 at 9:47 am

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Cater is just another queen throw­ing a hissy fit.

whalewatcher July 30, 2010 at 9:48 am

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in fact, Tim­boh, he seems to like being ‘out’.

He is ‘out’ in many senses now – out of the closet, out as the letter-writer, out of Labour

and hope­fully soon out of tax­payer money. Just need an election

robf July 30, 2010 at 4:42 pm

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No he won’t resign there are still perks on offer he could start his own polit­i­cal party and be a party leader.
Run­ning as an inde­pen­dent rarely works and is usu­ally a fast track to the polit­i­cal wilder­ness from which few return.
Melissa Lee might be right for another try, hav­ing met her once she seems like a nice lady, she just has to learn the truth and pol­i­tics don’t always mix.

gaskranken July 30, 2010 at 5:14 pm

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Anony­mous – why anonymous?

If he was really seri­ous about stay­ing anony­mous he would have gone to an inter­net cafe, some­where in West Auck­land, set up an email account under Bob Harvey’s name and where there are no camera’s and it’s ‘gay friendly’.

That’s if he was really clever but he’s not really clever is he. He’s a cock.

A queen hav­ing a swipe at Goof-E, egged on by a rooster that roots and a cou­ple of old worn out roost­ers, that pretty much sums up the labour party at present, love it when the queen turns.

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