… first they blocked the child porn, but i did nothing for I am not a pedophile…
… then they blocked the small breasted women, but i did nothing for fear of being called a pedophile…
… then they blocked all adult sites, but I did nothing as they were “protecting the children”………
…. then they blocked all objectionable writing, but I did nothing as it was in the “general publics best interests”…
…. then they blocked all free music, but I did nothing as it might be copyright infringement….
…. then they blocked my writing, because i was not sanctioned by the government. and no one did anything because it was too late…
It has started, we now have un-elected officials deciding what we can and cannot see on the internet. Except we don’t know what they are filtering. They won’t tell us that. The Department of Internal Affairs calls it filtering, suck a nice unobtrusive name for C E N S O R S H I P.
But hang on a minute, in the Dirty Doctor of Palmerston North case a judge said that if the child porn is from overseas it is not really the same as if it was here in NZ so not that big on the scale of offending. Welcome to the end of freedom of expression and the start of Net Censorship. Welcome to the true avbent of the Nanny State. Now they are deciding for us, without reference to us what we can and cannot look at on the internet.
My tolerance for this government is fast expiring, ok it is nearly in need of resuscitation. Now, I’m no kiddie fiddler or child-porn advocate, anyone who knows me knows I despise them. In fact I personally dobbed a creepy Scout Leader and got him chucked out. He subsequently moved to Auckland and last I heard was trying to become a Teacher. Lovely. But having a big filtering filtering god knows what on the internet, because they won’t tell us needs to be knocked on the head.
To make matters worse, read this story of how the Iranian Government shut down dissent. For all those people who had a little green box on their Twitter accounts, read this and be afraid.
“Collecting interception data is a process which takes place in the ‘background’, assuring that the intercepted target (end user) is never aware of a possible interception,” the manual describes. “The maximum number of simultaneous active interception sessions is 50,000.”
This manual has been read by police officers in Tehran. It ended up in my hands through the back door.
“Nokia Lawful Interception Gateway”, reads the cover page. This has been rumoured for a long while. Nokia Siemens Networks has supplied Iran with telesurveillance equipment, the details of which I have tried to track down since last summer. Now, one of the products that NSN supplied to Iran has been leaked to Fifi. This system enables just the type of surveillance that NSN has denied participating in.
It looks bad. The package gives users extensive power to monitor citizen mobile phone as well as mobile internet usage.
But it isn’t illegal. Similar systems monitor our own telecommunications. The question isn’t about Iran, but more broadly about what kind of surveillance is permitted – or mandated – in the networks we use. Who controls them?
So what? I hear you say. Well it just so happens our biggest Mobile player and also a rather large ISP has exactly the same gear as the Iranian mobile networks. I know this because I asked Paul Brislen.
So, I sent the article to Paul Brislen and he confirms that they have the gear mentioned in the article, in fact their entire network is provided by Nokia. He thinks it is funny. Well read on;
Nokia Siemens Networks refused to reveal what they had sold to Iran. “Just this small add-on”, the company’s media relations office replied again and again when I questioned them about it. “I don’t recall its name right now”, said Communications Manager Riitta Mård. “It has nothing to do with internet surveillance.”
In fact, at least three separate systems were exported to Iran. Nokia built a GSM network; the GSM network was provided with the LIG system that I acquired; and the LIG has been upgraded with the “add-on” that Mård described. Mård remembers the name of the system now: Monitoring Centre (PDF). It’s a test platform that, according to Mård, only is only suitable for monitoring telephone calls.
The commotion caused by the NSN trading with Iran has been mostly about the Monitoring Centre. The actual problem now seems to be the more extensive LIG.
And this is where it gets interesting, even for the ordinary Western mobile phone user normally untouched by Iran’s political storms. LIG, with its extensive monitoring capabilities, or a comparable system by a different manufacturer, is monitoring all mobile voice and data networks around the world, including here in Finland.
And that dear friends is how a government can shut down dissent overnight. Now you know how the Iranian government managed to shut-up the freedom movement.
In fact, it is precisely because of us Europeans that these extensive monitoring systems first became legal and then mandatory worldwide. Europe has spearheaded the transition from more restricted surveillance methods to extensive systems like the LIG: systems that store all of the target’s communications data during surveillance for future investigation.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Who indeed? Now do you all see why we need a constitution like this. This sort of nonesense is why we need the protection of a constitution especially the First and second amendments. Now watch then implement a more draconian s92a that that which we think there should be. The hugley ironic thing for me is the penalties for breaching copyright is 12 times higher than a “serious breach of the foundation of our law”, that being name suppression. Name Suppression is just one affront to our rights as citizens. Little by little they are being eroded away.
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And everybody thinks Helen Clark is the worst thing that could ever happen to us. Well spotted Whale … im no conspiracy theorist – but we are about to move into a fully surveilled society (if we arent there already).
Theres always a reason – we have to reduce drink driving / reduce the likelihood of accidents in the workplace / reduce the number of drownings / Save smokers from themselves / regulate parental discipline … and on it goes. And we are dumb complacent kiwis – we just sit there letting it all happen … we still think we live in the New Zealand we always loved – we’ve been asleep while all the immigrants came in – the merchant bankers sold us off – and on and on and on – wake up … we dont and we havent since around the time PC and MMP came into being. We still have living fossils like Roger Douglas hanging around like slowly moldering corpses reminding us who sold the family silver. The selling of New Zealand is about to move to the next level … the selling of all personal liberties.
The frog is in the pot and the heat has been turned up so gradually that it doesnt know its being cooked.
Perhaps only mass demonstrations will hold parliament and its huge row of overpaid privileged piggies feeding at the trough to take note.
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14 Freedom of expression
Everyone has the right to freedom of expression, including the freedom to seek, receive, and impart information and opinions of any kind in any form.
21 Unreasonable search and seizure
Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure, whether of the person, property, or correspondence or otherwise.
27 Right to justice
(1) Every person has the right to the observance of the principles of natural justice by any tribunal or other public authority which has the power to make a determination in respect of that person’s rights, obligations, or interests protected or recognised by law.
(2) Every person whose rights, obligations, or interests protected or recognised by law have been affected by a determination of any tribunal or other public authority has the right to apply, in accordance with law, for judicial review of that determination.
So I guess someone is going to have to get a judicial Review of Internal Affairs actions, which are prima facie a breach of at least two rights in NZ BORA.
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Granny, That would all be well and good, but Geoffrey Palmer made our Bill of Rights secondary all laws instead of primary. Essentially the BORA is vacuous rubbish unsupported by any enabling legislation as is typical of socialist claptrap. They couldn’t have us being more free after the Bill of Rights than before it.
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But hey… don’t get me wrong, censorship is all good for Fiji says the Whale out of the side of his mouth.
On another point, if we have a US style written constitution do you think our Supreme Court should be able to strike down unconstitutional laws?
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WO – any chance of making an Official Information Act request asking what DIA are blocking?
Even if they refused to answer (for some reason), at least it would be a start in embarrassing them.
DIA are getting more and more like the “Ministry of Truth” in Orwell’s “1984″.
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I quite agree, Whale, but mainly it is used by our esteemed Judges – especially Dame Fletcher – to limit the effect of legislation and/or to support judicial reviews.
They’re keen on Section 6 – about legislation to be interpreted in accordance with NZ BORA – and less keen on Section 4.
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A constitution would be a very good idea.
It is long overdue, and this kind of insidious erosion of rights clearly shows why one is needed.
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Whaleoil you’re arguing against this the wrong way.
By starting off your post laboriously explaining how you’re not a pedo, you’re being dragged into a trap. They’ve set the terms of the debate, their terms – child porn – are unwinnable, and you’re falling for them.
Of course you’re not a fucking pedo, and of course people who reject filtering aren’t pedos.
So when you write your next article smashing these people for their dangerous idiocy, don’t even mention the fact you aren’t a pedo.
Argue on your terms, not theirs.
Like how on earth have we got to the point where we allow unelected officials to decide in secret what we can and can’t read?
Who decides what’s hateful and against the public interest? I for one, feel your blog is full of hate and borderline fringe lunatic libertarian crap that’s likely to incite hate crimes.
Your views represent 0.5% of the population, are hateful, and it’s in the public interest some of the articles on this site are filtered.
Who’s to stop the nonsense above?
Where the hell is Farrar on this issue?
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Granny…Nice quote from the BOR…but people in NZ are not guaranteed freedom of expression…The FVPCA overrides the BOR in banning certain things (objectionable material) and Whale..don’t be alarmed, but an unelected official has been deciding what you can and cannot see for years..the position is called the Chief Censor.
I just love the conspiratorial undertones of the internet citizens…the first sign of any sort of governance and they start yelling about it will be abused “just look at China !!” we are not in China/Iran/Singapore.
I am really interested why peple think that as soon as they log on to the Internet, they should be granted completely unfettered freedom. Virtually every element of a persons life is goverend by some form of regulation, you can’t just decide one morning that you will drive on the other side of the road…
…and for the filter..I haven’t made my mind up on it yet…I don’t think it is a silver bullet but if it can prevent access to the vile stuff that is out there, why not.
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Upstart, we aren’t China or Singapore….yet.
As for the rest my annswer is already given.
… first they blocked the child porn, but i did nothing
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What is the difference between book burning and rules to keep you safe?
One destroys access to information that the Govt does not approve of, the other is protection of the people.
The internet is a revolution that like life has both good and evil. In life we make choices, to turn off the T.V when we don’t like or approve of whats on and to not go searching for porn on the internet.
God gave us freedom. He/She did not wrap us in cotton wool and take away our choices.We all must bear the consequences of our choices.
By all means punish those who choose to use the internet to do evil but do not restrict access to the information revolution because some choose to use it for evil.
We do not ban cars because some drive drunk. We punish those who drive drunk. We do not ban alcohol because some abuse it.
Freedom brings responsibilities but only communism and totalitarianism brings govt control of what information we can access.
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First they censored Fiji …. but you did nothing.
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