School says name him

by Whaleoil on January 31, 2010 · 34 comments

The School at the cen­tre of the storm around all male teach­ers on the North Shore being branded vic­ar­i­ously through the action of a judge grant­ing name sup­pres­sion for a kiddy-fiddling teacher want the man named so that they can inform parents.

There is sig­nif­i­cant New Zealand and over­seas research that says that by nam­ing the offender it is likely to bring more vic­tims for­ward enabling a slam dunk pros­e­cu­tion. For some­one to reach the age this offender is he will have form at pre­vi­ous schools. Unfor­tu­nately the way the Teach­ing fra­ter­nity oper­ates is that any­time some unsavoury details emerge they qui­etly resign and move with a glow­ing ref­er­ence tucked in the pocket from a relieved prin­ci­pal who doesn’t have to deal with it.

Luck­ily the Prin­ci­pal of the school in this case is not pre­pared to stay quiet and nei­ther is the BOT. Good on them. They should name him, they should post a let­ter to all stu­dent, not just for their peace of mind but for the 100′s of other par­ents who right now are con­tem­plat­ing whether to send their kids to school.

I have already fielded dozens of calls from wor­ried par­ents. Name this man, he will have com­mit­ted other offences, other vic­tims may come for­ward. Give the par­ents of the North Shore peace of mind.

The Gov­ern­ment must act. If they can change under urgency the defence of provo­ca­tion because of one case and adopt a pri­vate mem­bers bill about ani­mals (Well done Simon) then they sure as hell can move on this. The Pub­lic aren’t going to tol­er­ate much more of this and I would bet I can find a suit­able story every week from now till the elec­tion about inap­pro­pri­ate name suppression.

My sug­ges­tion to North Shore res­i­dents con­cerned about the safety of their child at school on Tues­day is call their local MP and lobby them to change the law so more vic­tims aren’t cre­ated. If Simon “Just-in” Bridges, a newby back­bencher, can get the ear of the PM about hor­ri­ble treat­ment of ani­mals to get an urgent law change then why can’t Simon “FIGJAM” Power do the same.

Right now it appears that the gov­ern­ment cares more about ani­mals and the rights of pae­dos than they do about poten­tial vic­tims of kiddy-fiddling teacher sickos.

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Elijah Lineberry January 31, 2010 at 1:27 pm

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I am curi­ous to know the name of the chap, too.

One of the (very) few peo­ple I gen­uinely dis­like is a ‘male North Shore school­teacher’ and I want to know if it is him; I will be delighted if it is and he is head­ing to prison for quite a long time! hahahahaha!

petal January 31, 2010 at 2:12 am

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some­one

might dob him

in?

Sinner January 31, 2010 at 8:08 am

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or fin­ish him off..

Pauleastbay January 31, 2010 at 12:35 am

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If the Prin­ci­pal had any nuts he’d just name the guy now in pub­lic and bug­ger the con­se­quences.
He is obliged to pro­vide a safe envi­ron­ment for all his pupils, thats the pri­or­ity.
They are not going to jail a school prin­ci­pal for this– even the lefty teach­ers unions would back him because he is gong up against the legal sys­tem NOTE: not the jus­tice sys­tem, the legal system.

Whaleoil January 31, 2010 at 12:48 am

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The Prin­ci­pal doesn’t have any nuts, she is a woman.

petal January 31, 2010 at 2:09 am

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There are many women with big­ger nuts than many men WO.

Sinner January 31, 2010 at 8:06 am

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If the prin­ci­pal had any nuts she’d have crushed the guy’s in a vice.

Rach January 31, 2010 at 2:02 am

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What ever the prin­ci­pals beliefs are on the mat­ter, if she did pub­licly name the offender she would be in con­tempt of court, not every­one is will­ing to break the law for their beliefs.

Titan_Uranus January 31, 2010 at 12:40 am

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Prob­a­bly should just check the Inter­est­ing Names thread?

Mark January 31, 2010 at 1:44 am

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Won­der if Dave will call him loyal…

Wondering January 31, 2010 at 3:02 am

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Won­der if the teacher thought the boys were a slice of heaven…

Titan_Uranus January 31, 2010 at 12:45 am

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Thats funny, when I went back to check the schools website,all of a sud­den the staff list is down, being “updated for 2010″.
Cos‘ it had a pic­ture and bio up a cou­ple of hours ago.

Pauleastbay January 31, 2010 at 12:49 am

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Sorry WO – if she’d take her tits in her hands– and do the right thing

@adybombs January 31, 2010 at 1:19 am

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Very ded­i­cated these teach­ers, work­ing on a Sun­day and all to update the web­site. Hope­fully they will leave an obvi­ous big where a cer­tain creep should be. That should get the mes­sage across to the par­ents with­out get­ting them­selves in hot water for breach­ing any sup­pres­sion order. The school must have a duty of care to the par­ents here that they are bound to filful

Interesting January 31, 2010 at 1:25 am

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Google cached pages ftw

The_Grizz January 31, 2010 at 1:49 am

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Whale, it took me 2 min­utes to work out who this teacher was and what school they teach out given infor­ma­tion avail­able on the inter­net. Come Tues­day all par­ents of the school con­cerned will know who it is and will want to know if this teacher has been given the boot before send­ing their kids there.

As for all North Shore par­ents of pri­mary school kids, they will want to know the fol­low­ing by Tues­day: Will the teacher con­cerned be work­ing at the same school that they send their kids. Can they trust that all male teach­ers at their school are not kiddy fiddlers.

I see this case being sim­i­lar to the HIV spreader case. His nam­ing was impor­tant to alert pos­si­ble vic­tims to seek med­ical atten­tion and coun­cilling as well as mak­ing the pub­lic aware of the dan­gers of this indi­vid­ual. I see this case being very sim­i­lar. For the sake of pub­lic safety and secu­rity, and also for many of the excel­lent males I know in the teach­ing pro­fes­sion, do the com­mu­nity a favour and just name this deviant.

Chris Gale January 31, 2010 at 7:20 am

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Trou­ble is that the teacher needs to be sus­pended on full pay now and then the law take its course… pub­li­cally.
Oth­er­wise, any male will not (read will not con­tinue) to con­sider teach­ing as a job, due to the risk of being tarred by the pedo brush because some­one in the same region (N Shore has about the same pop­u­la­tion as Otago).

But the teacher also needs to be able to mount a defense — and child abuse is seen (as witch­craft was in puri­tan Boston) as a crime where one accuser’s voice was enough to damn you, and the accuser could not be cross exam­ined. If the case can­not reach the stan­dard of beyond rea­son­able doubt, the teach­ers coun­cil can still inter­vene for unpro­fes­sional behav­iour. Or the teacher can just leave the profession.

SInner January 31, 2010 at 8:11 am

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Trou­ble is that the teacher needs to be sus­pended on full pay now and then the law take its course… pub­li­cally.

Not at all!

Oth­er­wise, any male will not (read will not con­tinue) to con­sider teach­ing as a job

Depends if they fid­dle kids or not.

But the teacher also needs to be able to mount a defense

No! We need to mount a “defense”. These guys don’t need pun­ish­ment. they need gun­ish­ment

If the case can­not reach the stan­dard of beyond rea­son­able doubt, the teach­ers coun­cil can still inter­vene for unpro­fes­sional behav­iour. Or the teacher can just leave the pro­fes­sion.

heh. if they live that long!

Rach January 31, 2010 at 2:13 am

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Per­son­ally I think all sex offend­ers should have to be reg­is­tered and report to a cor­rec­tions offi­cer or some­thing sim­i­lar once a month(or week), and keep on record where they live and where they work. The names on the data base should also be avail­able to the pub­lic and the sub­urb of where the offender lives. We all know that will never hap­pen here though because our sys­tem is too soft on criminals.

LeftRightOut January 31, 2010 at 2:34 am

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And if he is found to be inno­cent will you press for the names of his accusers to be revealed, or is it enough that a man’s career has been destroyed?

Rach February 2, 2010 at 4:42 am

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the major­ity of not guilty ver­dicts in sex cases are often due to tech­ni­cal­i­ties and we often see sex offend­ers walk free because it must be proved beyond rea­son­able doubt.

rongowaiata January 31, 2010 at 2:35 am

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What was that tweet about Room 13 about Whale?

Richard January 31, 2010 at 2:59 am

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Not a good day to go sail­ing on the Hau­raki Gulf.

Steam Special January 31, 2010 at 5:30 am

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The schools site has either crashed or now is off line Hmmmmmmm

becn January 31, 2010 at 5:34 am

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yeah – that’s a GOOD point. Accusers named for inno­cent verdict!

Actu­ally, naaa – not keen on that – “not guilty” is not the same as inno­cent and the accusers MAY have been sin­cere. But teach­ing is one field in which false, vex­a­tious, accu­sa­tions do occur and ruin the lives of the poor sods targeted.

Never ever (well … 0.1%) rea­son for name sup­pres­sion POST guilty ver­dict. But pre-verdict, I’m a lot more com­fort­able, expe­cially in cases like this. Same with rape accu­sa­tions. Pun­ish them hard, but don’t let courts be used as a weapon by vex­a­tious false complainants

Interested January 31, 2010 at 5:34 am

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I’d say its been taken down. But still if you google for it then click on Cached, you can still view the pages.

Steam Special January 31, 2010 at 5:44 am

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Your quite right grasshopper

petal January 31, 2010 at 5:51 am

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@becn

100% agree with you.

BUT

In the event the alleged offender is con­sid­ered to CONTINUE to be a threat… should we not err on the side of the poten­tial victims?

Espe­cially if such vic­tims are the truly inno­cent young?

becn January 31, 2010 at 7:44 am

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damn tricky alright.

hey – something’s not right with that. If the school wants him named, why is he not sus­pended or removed from kid con­tact pend­ing case.

get him away from kids until the case is over

Theresaj January 31, 2010 at 7:46 am

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I don’t think he should be named until he has been convicted.

Whaleoil January 31, 2010 at 10:04 am

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So there­saj how do we know he is com­ply­ing eith his court order to stay away from chil­dren under 16 if we can’t know who he is?

No one else gets Name Sup­pres­sion until con­victed as of right.

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