Cactus says FAIL, I say FRO

by Whaleoil on December 20, 2009 · 24 comments

Cac­tus Kate has a post on the failed lead­er­ship coup mounted by Roger Dou­glas. I say Roger Dou­glas because I scarcely can believe that Heather Roy would have the gump­tion to mount a horse let alone a coup. John Boscawen was the third plot­ter but didn’t have the stones to go through with it.

Cac­tus is right when she says that the only thing worse than a lead­er­ship coup in a small party is a failed lead­er­ship coup. Espe­cially so when you only need to get three out of five. So on that basis the three of them are utter failures.

Audrey Young got nearly every­thing right, except the part about John Key sav­ing Rodney’s arse. My under­stand­ing is that Rod­ney had stared them all down and Boscawen caved when he realised that with­out Rod­ney who has Epsom for as long as he wants it he wouldn’t be able to dip his snout in the trough of pub­lic funds. Key was informed after the fact.

So, what to do now?

Well trai­tors are trai­tors and there is only one solu­tion. Death. I don’t mean phys­i­cal death, I mean polit­i­cal death. The three of them are List MPs and the party could quite eas­ily give them all the boot. That won’t quite work so my pick is that they ditch Roger “Cot­ton Hill” Dou­glas. Like Cot­ton Hill, Sir Roger didn’t have the shins for a shin dig with Rod­ney. Right now Sir Roger Dou­glas is a malig­nant can­cer on the party he founded, he acts and car­ries on like a mud­dled old fool rem­i­nisc­ing about the bat­tles of days long past as he pisses in his adult dia­pers. Can­cers need to be cut out and so ACT needs a rad­i­cal Roger-dectomy.

As for the oth­ers they should humbly beg for­give­ness from Rod­ney and hope that the Czars of the party who con­trol the money don’t decide that a lit­tle slide down the list rank­ings next time might be a fit­ting punishment.

There is also the lit­tle mat­ter of who welshed to the media, my pick is it was Gar­rett who would have been pick­led bet­ter than Kim Chee this past week. He should get 50 lashes on the cock with a wet shoelace for blabbing.

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petal December 20, 2009 at 1:11 pm

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Garrett’s pun­ish­ment sounds mildly pleasurable.

thor42 December 20, 2009 at 1:59 pm

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Dou­glas ***HAS TO GO!***

I don’t really care what hap­pens to the oth­ers, but Dou­glas is an **ABSOLUTE LIABILITY!**

Act can have all of the great­est poli­cies in the world (and they do have some good ones), but as long as Roger “elec­toral poi­son” Dou­glas remains, then the best poli­cies in the world are pointless.

For good­ness sake, Act, get rid of him. Get rid of him now. At least by doing that, some good can come of this.

Mediatruth December 20, 2009 at 2:07 pm

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Not con­tent with bring­ing down the Fourth Labour gov­ern­ment through infight­ing, the angry grey bum­ble­fuck now wants to bring down a National Gov­ern­ment the same way.

Sinner December 20, 2009 at 3:11 pm

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If Dou­glas was really “elec­toral poi­son” then he’d have to go. As it is he’s not. The prob­lem is his senile poli­cies – state sub­si­dies for pri­vate health and income employ­ment, no ter­mi­na­tion of exist­ing ben­e­fi­cia­ries “rights” that make him part of the prob­lem, not part of the solution.

ACT must dump Roger and the trai­tors. Then appoint Brash, Richard­son (if they could afford her) and stand on a real no com­pro­mise pol­icy: the end of all ben­e­fits, all SOEs, all the rest of the state mess imme­di­ately.
And force National to another elec­tion if National does do what it damn well knows is best for the country

Frankly the sad­dest guy los­ing his balls isn’t Roger. It is (once again) Key. Key should have let this coup go ahead and forced a snap elec­tion. Chances are he’d have had enough votes to change the con­sti­tu­tion once and for all, get­ting rid of labour, unions, ben­e­fits, bludgers, super, codgers and all the rest.

Inventory2 December 20, 2009 at 3:19 pm

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Come in Sir Roger – your time is up!

PK:) December 20, 2009 at 4:00 pm

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Roger needs to check him­self in for a ses­sion with these guys….

http://www.cbtpsychology.co.nz/cbt/

Only in Hamil­ton, CBT so you can get a degree in it now eh?

Straight Shoooter December 20, 2009 at 4:01 pm

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This sort of stuff sur­faces in the media for two rea­sons:
1. There is an Act con­fer­ence or event and the media want to divert atten­tion; or
2. It is the end of the Par­lia­men­tary year and the media love to make it last over the sum­mer break.

This sort of stuff hap­pens in Act because:
1. Act has atten­tion deficit dis­or­der, and if they can’t get media rel­e­vance, they can­ni­balise; and
2. If its peo­ple aren’t kept busy on some­thing pro­duc­tive, they fes­ter and vent to any­one who’ll listen.

Cactus Kate December 20, 2009 at 4:07 pm

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SS – this stuff sur­faces because MP’s and their staff get pissed with journos this time of year and blab.

thor42 December 20, 2009 at 5:08 pm

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@sinner – Sorry, I have to dif­fer – Dou­glas really *is* elec­toral poison.

He is a com­plete “road­block” to those who would *like* to have stronger poli­cies than the Nats have, and would like to look at Act, but who just *can’t* get past Dou­glas and his image.

It gives them an *excuse* not to check Act out. With Dou­glas gone, the road­block goes too.

**What have Act got to lose** by dump­ing him? They can’t do any worse in the polls than they are now, and by dump­ing them they have *some* chance of doing bet­ter! Keep him there, and they have *no chance at all*.

toad December 20, 2009 at 5:59 pm

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Fuck, despite the way he cre­ated mass unem­ploy­ment and sold off the fam­ily sil­ver in the 1980′s, I’m almost start­ing to respect Sir Roger.

But only because his snout was not quite as deep in the trough as Hide’s has been found to be.

Whaleoil December 20, 2009 at 5:07 am

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Actu­ally it was deeper. And still is.

Inventory2 December 20, 2009 at 6:08 pm

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Bol­locks toad – have you already for­got­ten Dou­glas’ “I’ll take the mis­sus around the world on the tax­payer BECAUSE I’M ENTITLED TO”? He is as bad as any of them.

hagues December 20, 2009 at 6:59 pm

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Hey Toad, can you please list the “fam­ily sil­ver” that was sold off dur­ing Roger’s time as Finance Min­is­ter? I think you will find that you are full of shit.

peterquixote December 20, 2009 at 10:07 pm

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good post dude,
My God how much we wish the end of the Dou­glas Era,
and Rod­ney will go soon,
I was the only per­son within Act mem­ber­ship to refuse and vote against Dou­glas a per­ma­nent seat on the priv­eledged Act board with Kather­ine Judd and Bus­cowan in year 2000.

Its sad but Act is bad news.

Flashman December 21, 2009 at 6:47 am

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Dou­glas is the near­est thing in NZ pol­i­tics to Father Jack – the atavis­tic, tun­nel vision obses­sive and synapse mis­fir­ing char­ac­ter in the TV com­edy Father Ted.

His elec­tion poi­son­ing script in its bumper sticker entir­ity: “Pri­va­tise!” “Unions Evil!” “State Owned Enter­prise!” “Tax Cuts!” “Me! Me! Me!”

mediatart December 21, 2009 at 11:01 am

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You all for­get it was Rod­ders who was the trougher that led to this.
Look at Hides his­tory, pro­fes­sional stu­dent, then bot­tom of bar­rel uni­ver­sity tutor some how he gets a mas­ters in eco­nom­ics from a 5th rate amer­i­can uni­ver­sity that was pre­vi­ously a teach­ers col­lege, ends up as a speech writer for Gibbs who gets him on the ACT list.
This guy is all­ways one slip of the banana peel from being the next benny Hill

Tim December 21, 2009 at 11:20 am

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@mediatart “This guy is all­ways one slip of the banana peel from being the next benny Hill”

On the but­ton. Hide is a bald buf­foon. Long may he (mis)rule the freak­show called the Act party.

Chuck Bird December 21, 2009 at 3:45 pm

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But only because his snout was not quite as deep in the trough as Hide’s has been found to be.”

Toad, Rod­ney acted fool­ishly as he has acknowl­edged but not dis­hon­estly. Two Green MPs were col­lect­ing $500 each for a house that a trust belong­ing to the Greens owned.

The mar­ket value of the house was under $500. It is not cred­i­ble that each MPs was not aware the other was col­lect­ing an allowance.

There is no party in Par­lia­ment in a posi­tion to take the moral high ground and that includes the Greens.

Andrew Carrot December 21, 2009 at 4:53 pm

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Ahhh, “medi­atart” (aka andrew williams),you crack me up!
I can’t wait for your next com­men­tary. I sus­pect you’ll focus all of your minis­cule efforts on, let’s see – RH! It’s just a hunch of mine, noth­ing personal.

kehua December 21, 2009 at 9:24 pm

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Wow what a CV. Failed Pig Farmer, Failed Politi­cian, Failed Dic­ta­tor. Go play Bowls with square balls Rog.

Sinner December 22, 2009 at 1:27 am

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Fuck, despite the way he cre­ated mass unem­ploy­ment and sold off the fam­ily sil­ver in the 1980’s, I’m almost start­ing to respect Sir Roger.

More to the fuck­ing point, Roger did almost none of this. Some of the hard work was done by Ruth – but much remains still do be done!

We’ve still got SOEs
We’ve still got Unions
We’ve still got State schools and hos­pi­tals
We’ve still got gov­ern­ment owned banks, trains, and air­lines.
We’ve still got ACC
We’ve still got the dole and DPB
We’ve still got super!

If Roger had done half of what stu­pid 20-year-olds thing he did – NZ would have absolutely none of those things now!

longchops December 22, 2009 at 7:51 am

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Almost right cam, but one thing Roger failed to realise is that, only the ACT board can appoint the leader. I’m sure there is some role to keep him busy.

Clint December 26, 2009 at 9:18 am

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Oh joy, I check my emails in Prague and see this. What­ever next?

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