Time for a new Finance Minister

by Whaleoil on December 1, 2009 · 46 comments

I have to ask myself, what was the point of the 2025 Task­force if the Gov­ern­ments two top soft cocks say they are going to ignore it?

New Zealand is ill, it is bloated from 50 years of creep­ing social­ism and sadly the change of gov­ern­ment didn’t change any­thing except the seats on the Titanic. Worse instead of repeal­ing and rolling back many of the idiocy of the Clark years Key and Eng­lish have assured Kiwis that their “enti­tle­ments” will remain.

Except they are bor­row­ing huge amounts daily to pay for those enti­tle­ments. The gov­ern­ment com­mis­sioned a Task­force to look at how we can catch Aus­tralia by 2025 in terms of pros­per­ity, pro­duc­tiv­ity and wealth, they have pro­duced a sen­si­ble report and both John Key and Bill Eng­lish have dis­missed it out of hand.

Bill Eng­lish has labelled it “too rad­i­cal” this from a man who would seek Trea­sury advice about which side of a postage stamp to lick and then con­firm the advice with another request to Trea­sury to con­firm the advice so he could con­firm which side he thought should be licked. The man is inca­pable of mak­ing a deci­sion. Well I sup­pose he has made one here and very quickly by his usual stan­dards which is a first but to label the plan as too rad­i­cal shows just how timid this gov­ern­ment, par­tic­u­larly the top two have become.

Bill Eng­lish though goes even further;

A plan to close the wealth gap with Aus­tralia is “too rad­i­cal” for Finance Min­is­ter Bill Eng­lish, who says bring­ing the two coun­tries to eco­nomic par­ity by 2025 is an “aspi­ra­tional” rather than real­is­tic goal.

FFS what is the point, why set the goal in the first place if you don’t think you can get there? He sounds like a NZ ath­lete who did their per­sonal best at the Olympics and came dead last try­ing to say they are a win­ner. This is what is wrong with New Zealand. It per­vades our sports teams, win­ning is an aspi­ra­tion rather than real­is­tic goal, it infects our schools and now it has infected our government.

We may as well give up and just become the eighth state of Aus­tralia, that at least would be one sure way of clos­ing the gap by becom­ing Aus­tralians. The peo­ple of New Zealand voted for change not more of the same.

Dr Brash said if the Gov­ern­ment ignored the rec­om­men­da­tions, “there may be some other cun­ning plan, but I’m not aware of it”.

He said the Prime Min­is­ter had “enor­mous polit­i­cal cap­i­tal” and should use some of it to imple­ment the sug­gested poli­cies, which would be unpopular.

With­out them, the Government’s goal of catch­ing Aus­tralia could not be achieved.

A lit­tle tin­ker­ing at the edges ain’t going to do it,” Dr Brash said.

And that is the point isn’t it, the polls sug­gest that there is plenty of polit­i­cal cap­i­tal there to give some things a go, the Task­force doesn’t rec­om­mend doing them all at once, so why not take a third of them and do them now, a third next term and a third the term after that.

Either grow some balls Bill or fuck off and let some­one else have a crack.

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baxter December 1, 2009 at 12:56 am

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The ironic thing is that now Don BRASH has to pro­duce a report each year show­ing what progress has been made in reduc­ing the gap. Now that KEY has com­mit­ted to lav­ish­ing mil­lions on the global warm­ing scam while the Aussie Oppo­si­tion at least have shown some integrity it is not dif­fi­cult to see the gap widening.

Ayrdale December 1, 2009 at 2:02 am

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FFS it’s all about sus­tain­abil­ity. We can’t sus­tain our econ­omy in its present state, and if we remain on the down­ward path to penury we are doomed. Our pro­duc­tive class will sim­ply piss off. Key is smart enough to know that (can’t say the same for Bill Eng­lish though). Key’s main prob­lem is a news media that is firmly left of cen­tre. Key has to bypass the hand­wring­ing PC pricks and stay in power long enough to imple­ment the reforms he and we know are needed. Mustn’t scare the elec­torate for at least 3 years. By then Bill Eng­lish will have been dis­patched to Lon­don or Washington…or Khazakstan.

DONKEY November 30, 2009 at 7:21 pm

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could not agree more Whale! i always thought the Nats are right handed – not mid­dle to almost left. NZ has tied all sorts of BS in the last 20 years and we have really gone nowhere. time for a rad­i­cal step to get mov­ing. i am very dis­s­a­pointed to say the least.

Paranormal December 1, 2009 at 8:33 am

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It was sur­real lis­ten­ing to State Radio Left Wing yes­ter­day. In the same news bul­letin they had the union­ists whing­ing that West Aus­tralia Prison Ser­vice was poach­ing our best prison guards because they could afford to pay them more. Then you had the same union­ists rub­bish­ing the tax­a­tion sug­ges­tions from the 2025 report. Du’oh

Jack_Frost November 30, 2009 at 7:42 pm

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Its kind of obvi­ous isn’t it – the task­force was some­thing that was agreed to as part of a coali­tion deal with ACT – it was not some­thing dri­ven by the National Party. ACT have their report but it wasn’t some­thing National was push­ing for and their response is con­sis­tent with that.

Berend de Boer November 30, 2009 at 7:45 pm

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There’s just one ques­tion I want to ask the left­ies: is there any point they think the wage gap is going to be sig­nif­i­cant? I mean we’re more than 30% behind now. What if it is 50%? And when it is 100%?

Do they really think they can pro­vide 1st world health care at 3rd world salaries???

Snitch November 30, 2009 at 7:48 pm

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Well said Cam.

erikter November 30, 2009 at 7:51 pm

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Key is as guily as Eng­lish in dis­miss­ing the report out of hand.

The two of them are cow­ards and should be ditched by the National Party. With lead­ers like them, who needs leadership?

Sinner November 30, 2009 at 8:06 pm

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What you have to under­stand is that Labour Ger­ry­man­dered the cun­try via MMP and tax laws.

WFF means that more than half the vot­ers pay no income tax what­so­ever

MMP basi­cally makes the whole cun­try one big elec­torate – so that that more than half of the cun­try that are bludgers (ben­nies, WFFers, civil ser­cunts) elect the gov­ern­ment

The bludg­ing turkeys may have voted for a change from Auny Helen — to be able to whack their kids while they trot down to the bottle-store to buy more booze paid for by my taxes — but they didn’t vote for Christ­mass: for an end to “their” super, to “their” ben­nies, to “their” WFF, to “their” schools and hospitals.

Key needs to seize the moment. I can see only two ways to do this.

Either push the next elec­tion out to 2025.

Or remove the vote from all ben­nies, all bludgers, all losers, all ser­cunts (yes includ­ing doc­tors & teach­ers & prison guards & park­ing war­dens) and every­one who lives off other peo­ples taxes.

With­out one of these changes, noth­ing else can or will change

Cactus Kate December 1, 2009 at 5:57 am

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Yep “WFF means that more than half the vot­ers pay no income tax whatsoever”

This is pre­cisely the prob­lem NZ has. In HK only a 1/3rd of the work­ers pay any tax at all but the 2/3rd that don’t are rea­son­ably dis­en­fran­chised, as it should be.

mediatart November 30, 2009 at 8:12 pm

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What were those poll rat­ings again ???

If you love the siz­zle you gonna have to love the sausage.. Bon appetit

John Boy November 30, 2009 at 8:20 pm

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I don’t think we can match Oz. Their economies of scale, bet­ter loca­tion and indus­trial advan­tages (despite active unions) are hard to over­some. They can be less effi­cient but still bet­ter off than us. There’s some hope in oil and min­ing for us but they are still jusy maybe’s on the hori­zon. We are pri­mary pro­duc­ers first and I see no really big ticket exporters to be devel­oped in other fields. It seems to me we don’t even have the smart and well trained work­force we used to. Wel­come to the third world – we already have the cor­rupt govt to go with our status.

Sinner December 1, 2009 at 1:02 am

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Which part of: Aussie is 30% more pro­duc­tive than NZ do you understand?

Aussie is more effi­cient than NZ

Wel­come to the third world – we already have the cor­rupt govt to go with our sta­tus.

Yep. Couldn’t put it bet­ter myself

Lucy November 30, 2009 at 8:20 pm

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There isnt any­one in the National Party with balls enough to change any­thing. No its time to for­get the National Party and look else­where. If it is not to be ACT then we need a new party to emerge. I won­der what it will take.

Per­haps an agree­ment with the UN/Lefties not to drill for oil or min­er­als because it ‘would destroy the planet? Maybe a new party will emerge when that happens.

Theresaj November 30, 2009 at 8:30 pm

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I agree with Jack Frost..very few peo­ple in the coun­try agree with Act type policies..If National fol­lowed them , they would be a one term gov­ern­ment. When Brash was in the lime­light , he was barely articulate..why would any­one fol­low a per­son like this?
I read an inter­est­ing arti­cle some­where about super­an­nu­a­tion and how New Zealan­ders feel about it..how the Nats tam­pered with it pre­vi­ously and were rewarded with nine years in the wilder­ness. Brash’s insis­tence on rais­ing the age of super­an­nu­a­tion is just fur­ther evi­dence , if any­one needed it , of how out of touch he is with the vast major­ity of New Zealanders.

Sinner December 1, 2009 at 1:03 am

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Who gives a fuck what the blud­hers, codgers, ben­nies, wffers and ser­cunts think or want?

Key has the sup­port to can­cel all ben­e­fits tomor­row, yes includ­ing fuck­ing super,
and post­pone the elec­tion until 2025 (or until par­ity is reached).

Want lead­er­ship? there it is!

JeffW November 30, 2009 at 8:51 pm

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100% agree, Whale. The key ques­tion would seem to be how we can reform our MSM to weed out the very left, so that if some gov­ern­ment, any gov­ern­ment did some­thing to grow the econ­omy (and I agree with Brash that this requires less gov­ern­ment), they did not howl to the rafters and cre­ate huge antipa­thy to change. I was some­what heart­ened by the main Her­ald edi­to­r­ial this morn­ing, which seemed not to dis­miss the need to do some­thing out of hand, unlike some of its commentators.

Lucy November 30, 2009 at 9:03 pm

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You seem to con­ve­niently for­get that Don Brash lifted National 20 points in 2005. They very nearly won the elec­tion in 2005. So it would appear that a large num­ber of peo­ple fol­lowed ‘a per­son like this’

Guest November 30, 2009 at 9:27 pm

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Ummm, you’re all for­get­ting some­thing here. First and fore­most these guys are politi­cians. They have carved out a com­fort­able lifestyle and are enjoy­ing the ben­e­fits, perks, noto­ri­ety and fame (Let­ter­man any­one?) that goes with it. Grow up……..when did you ever think they were about more than becom­ing career politi­cians and get­ting re-elected. Geez…..wake up Pollyanna!

James November 30, 2009 at 9:30 pm

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National are sup­posed to be an ACT type party…go read their damm found­ing principles….and show those wet pricks Key and Eng­lish while you are at it.

Lucy November 30, 2009 at 9:34 pm

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Sin­ner I said this to you over at Lind­say Mitchells Blog and I will say it to you here. You are a cer­ti­fi­able dickhead.

mediatart November 30, 2009 at 9:45 pm

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Once again Don and his mes­sage is ‘gone by lunctime’

Guest November 30, 2009 at 10:01 pm

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Def­i­n­i­tion of a Politi­cian from the online dictionary……….gotta love #2

1. a per­son who is active in party pol­i­tics.
2. a seeker or holder of pub­lic office, who is more con­cerned about win­ning favor or retain­ing power than about main­tain­ing prin­ci­ples.
3. a per­son who holds a polit­i­cal office.
4. a per­son skilled in polit­i­cal gov­ern­ment or admin­is­tra­tion; states­man or stateswoman.

Lucy November 30, 2009 at 10:07 pm

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#2 LOL sooooooo true

Naylor November 30, 2009 at 10:49 pm

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So Aus­tralia has it above NZ in nearly all counts. It’s no bloody won­der more Kiwis are seri­ously look­ing at mov­ing across the ditch. Yes they came home in droves once Helen left, but now they realise John key is noth­ing but all smiles. So NZ may have ‘clean air’ – if it wasn’t for the pre­vail­ing south wester we’d be a pol­luted hole, but that’s not going to get this coun­try ahead.

With com­plete racist wankers like Hone Harawira still not turfed out of Par­lia­ment and the Nats pan­der­ing to the cor­rupt Maori Party tied to an elite few, this coun­try is fast going down the gurgler.

GROW SOME BALLS KEY. Oth­er­wise you should fuck off to, along with that imposter English.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_i...

DONKEY December 1, 2009 at 8:17 am

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Nay­lor – no clean air ace – we have cunts in par­li­ment that call us white moth­er­fuck­ers – well Hone’s crew are the white moth­er­fuck­ers – some­times even grand­moth­er­fuck­ers!!! oh and they dont need tow­els for the kids as they put them in dry­ers! this cun­try is full of bad air – NZ does need balls, not a new ver­sion of Guy Smiley!

Jack_Frost November 30, 2009 at 10:59 pm

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Its not rocket sci­ence – the National Party secured almost 50% of the vote and Gov­ern­ment – by run­ning on an essen­tially cen­trist ticket. The Task Forces con­clu­sions may have ele­ments that would con­tribute greatly to the coun­try pro­gress­ing towards lift­ing pro­duc­tiv­ity but they can only be deliv­ered in a sus­tain­able way by a Gov­ern­ment with a man­date from the elec­torate. As a result look for incre­men­tal changes from this Gov­ern­ment – not wide sweep­ing changes that have lit­tle prospect of sur­viv­ing beyond this polit­i­cal term.

Guest November 30, 2009 at 11:04 pm

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Jack_Frost…..exactly true. What sur­prises me is the fact that peo­ple are sur­prised. Like I said in my pre­vi­ous post….these guys are politi­cians first and fore­most. A lot of Pollyanna non­sense going on in here today…get real.

JeffW December 1, 2009 at 9:23 am

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Don’t think it is sur­prise; dis­ap­point­ment, I would say

peterwn December 1, 2009 at 12:06 am

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Park­ing war­dens actu­ally earn their pay. They do not sponge off the ratepayer or tax­payer. You do not need to sup­port park­ing war­dens – sim­ply abide by park­ing restric­tions set by demo­c­ra­tic processes. Which would you rather see – a per­son being a park­ing war­den or on the dole.

Chris R December 1, 2009 at 12:33 am

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I am yet to be con­vinced that we need to “catch-up with Aus­tralia!” I have an inter­est in a busi­ness in NZ and another in Aus­tralia. Nei­ther are par­tic­u­larly large busi­nesses but my NZ returns due to a FAR more favourable reg­u­la­tory set-up here, is more prof­itable and less afflicted with gov­ern­men­tal levies includ­ing income tax. Aus­tralia is not the coun­try NZ ought aspire to be, there are bet­ter exam­ples; Sin­ga­pore, Sey­chelles, Hong Kong come to mind. The only thing Aus­tralia has that NZ doesn’t is an excess of sun­shine hours. That is a mixed bless­ing. If NZers wish to migrate they are bet­ter served by being imag­i­na­tive in their choice of des­ti­na­tion. (Queens­land is not a bad place for a win­ter hol­i­day though.)

Christopher Thomson December 1, 2009 at 10:40 am

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OK, I’m lis­ten­ing. Sug­gest a few and give rea­sons. I’. seri­ously think­ing of mov­ing on and I am always look­ing for some­where to rec­om­mend for my chil­dren to move to so they can achieve more than they ever will by stay­ing here.

Theresaj December 1, 2009 at 12:42 am

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Lucy ,
The 20 points rise was a direct result of Brash’s racist rant…he could not sus­tain this ”pop­u­lar­ity” and his min­ions could not come up with any other ”pop­u­lar” for­mula. He was socially inept and had no small talk…how embar­rass­ing , telling any­one who would lis­ten that his wife was from Singapore…..Noone else so fun­da­men­tally uncom­fort­able around peo­ple has ever suc­ceeded in pol­i­tics. Politi­cians do not have to like peo­ple but they at least need to be able to speak to them.

Lucy December 1, 2009 at 1:04 am

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Spo­ken like a true Key/English pleb There­saj. Tell me were you a guest at the bar­beque when it was decided to roll Don Brash or was it held at your place?

Sinner December 1, 2009 at 1:04 am

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how we can reform our MSM to weed out the very left,

They key point is how we can reform our whole cun­try to weed out the extreme-left.

BTW the BRASH REPORT is cen­tre left, not even cen­tre right

Obama is far to the right of Brash, of Hyde, and of Douglas!

Sinner December 1, 2009 at 1:05 am

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Which is why lead­er­ship of NZ at this time of cri­sis – like in WWI – demands that elec­tions are sus­pended until par­ity is reached

Once you take that one deci­sion – a sim­ple amend­ment of the elec­toral act will suf­fice –
then every­thing else is easy.

William December 1, 2009 at 1:15 am

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I would insti­tute a new flat tax SOFFT (Silly Old Fart Flat Tax) payable by all old codgers like Brash who should be con­fined to a rock­ing chair in a rest home and I am a life long National Party sup­porter and CEO of a soft­ware devel­op­ment com­pany based in NZ but with branches in Aus and the UK.

Ayrdale December 1, 2009 at 2:05 am

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[youtube 2n5NHt8YWpQ&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n5NHt8YWpQ&fe... youtube]

…wrth a view, par­tic­u­larly in light of the pro­gres­sive move from Switzerland.

Jagilby December 1, 2009 at 3:10 am

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A fundraiser should be held and then some­one (any­one) should rock up to Par­lia­ment grounds unin­vited and unsched­uled with a cheque to fund tes­tic­u­lar trans­plants for both Key and English.

Isn’t that how you get media sup­port for your cause in New Zealand?

Paranormal December 1, 2009 at 5:29 pm

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Sorry Lucy – whilst he may be cyn­i­cal Sin­ner is cor­rect. The prob­lem is politi­cians buy­ing votes. Hulun stayed a cou­ple of terms too long by doing it.

The Lange/Douglas gov­ern­ment ini­tially showed some balls and received the ben­e­fit of that – re-elected with an increased major­ity. If Lange hadn’t wimped out and had a cup of tea it would have been odds on for a third term.

The Nats have not learned the les­son. If Labour don’t put up a cred­i­ble alter­na­tive the Nats will sleep­walk through the next elec­tion but that’s all they’ll get.

For a gov­ern­ment that was elected with so much promise it will be con­signed to history’s dust­bin. Even Hulun’s Labour govt will be remem­bered for some­thing pos­i­tive in kiwisaver. Can’t see any­thing com­ing from the Nats yet…

Lucy December 1, 2009 at 6:07 am

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So sin­ner is right in advo­cat­ing no elec­tions for 15 years. Live in a dic­ta­tor­ship instead – yeah right!

Caleb December 1, 2009 at 9:20 pm

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Labour has had 9 years to embed its poli­cies of gov­ern­ment depen­dancy upon the com­fort­able baby boomers and igno­rant. A democ­racy that has been bought from our trea­sury and sold in the media.

As to the seond term… It doesnt seem as though National are head­ing in the right direc­tion at all.

It would be nice to hear the PM say what his vision, actu­ally, is.

JPMGroup December 2, 2009 at 6:34 am

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Hi,
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Guest December 2, 2009 at 10:15 am

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You can moan about NZ, but there are too many depen­dent on the pub­lic purse for any gov­ern­ment to effect rad­i­cal change. NZers are com­pla­cent and happy with medi­oc­rity. If you want to improve your lot stop moan­ing and buy a one-way ticket. I earn four times what my col­leagues in NZ earn, and have not looked back.

Christopher Thomson December 3, 2009 at 5:41 pm

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Yes but where to? I would sug­gest a rank­ing table with var­i­ous coun­tries rated under a range of head­ings. For exam­ple; qual­ity of life, income, gov­ern­ment inter­fer­ence, sta­bil­ity, secu­rity, cul­tural com­pat­i­bil­ity, Eng­lish language.

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