How long will the Maori Party last?

by Whaleoil on November 23, 2009 · 18 comments

That is the first of a set ran­dom imper­ti­nent ques­tions that the media should be pur­su­ing tonight. Some oth­ers would be;

  • Why was Pita Sharples fran­ti­cally try­ing to grab the first avail­able seat out of Welling­ton to Auck­land tonight?
  • Are their votes secure?
  • How much does Nga­puhi get again?
  • What about poor Maori iwi like Ngati Porou, Tuhoe and Muri­whenua and Ngati Pakeha

The word from the spies of The Whale is that the Maori party is in deep trou­ble tonight. Remem­ber that the Maori Party opposed an ETS, now with a few blan­kets and beads they have been bought off in one of New Zealand’s most out­ra­geously cor­rupt  man­glings of our democ­racy. Thou­sands of for­est own­ers have today had their wealth destroyed so that a few elite of the maori­toc­racy can brown­mail the government.

I think the Maori Party is going to bust apart. It’s pretty much part of MMP isn’t it? The very same thing hap­pened to the Alliance remem­ber. Jim Ander­ton sold out the party and the ones with integrity left. Laila Harre, Matt McCarten walked rather than be bought off. The left splits faster than a banana when it comes to tough decisions.

This is a tough deci­sion, one that if it goes through will see Hone Harawira and Rahui Katene essen­tially dis­en­fran­chise and impov­er­ish their iwi for­ever. That is a deci­sion too far I think for Hone Harawira. The ques­tion will be though is how many will split with Hone? The only two Maori party MPs that sup­port the ETS now are Pita Sharples and Tar­i­ana Turia. Te Ururoa Flavell is said to be unconvinced.

Inter­est­ing times lie ahead, but I don’t think the Maori party can guar­an­tee their 5 seats.

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medaiatart November 24, 2009 at 12:47 am

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Funny how the Maori party has turned out to be just like the national party.
beholden to big cor­po­rate (iwi) inter­ests
Would flip flop in a heart­beat – prin­ci­ples are for losers
Stron­garm MPs to vote todays party line– or what the lead­ers dictate

And Yes Key has turned out to be the new Mul­doon, in forc­ing sec­tional poli­cies on to the country

thor42 November 24, 2009 at 7:25 am

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@Spectator – Oh, so Maori aren’t allowed to be crit­i­cised now? And when they are, the crit­i­cism is “racist”? Bull­shit.
You are the most racist of any­one here. If Maori play in the real world of busi­ness and pol­i­tics, they can expect to be crit­i­cised. It’s that sim­ple. To *exempt* Maori from crit­i­cism would be more racist than anything!

naylor November 23, 2009 at 7:45 pm

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This is the fine art of cor­rup­tion being played out before us. Nick Smith should go an be Philip Taito Fields cell mate / bunk “buddy” for this.

Not only has National (thanks to that prick Nick Smith) missed an mas­sive oppor­tu­nity to sell it to the peo­ple of New Zealand, they have essen­tially signed their death war­rant at the next elec­tion. No amount of John Key smil­ing and kiss­ing babies will cover this sham­bles. This is a dis­grace and his­tory will demon­strate the blame can be placed right at the feet of that mad prick Nick Smith. Makes the clown Andrew Williams look like Bill Clinton.

Dark clouds are gath­er­ing and the peo­ple are bloody unhappy – aside from a few “elite” Maori troughers.

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erikter November 23, 2009 at 9:18 pm

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I couldn’t care less about the Maori Party, but the sad­dest part of this deba­cle is to see the National Party sur­ren­der­ing to a bunch of racists.

Key has proven to be a weak leader, a per­son inca­pable of tak­ing deci­sive action against the lunacy Nick Smith is ped­dling. He has failed lead­er­ship 101. He must go.

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Pix November 23, 2009 at 11:19 pm

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Now I know why there isn’t going to ever be a inde­pen­dant cur­rup­tion com­mis­sion. What National has done with the mowreez is truly BRIBARY AND CURRUPTION and they are too lazy to use their own bloody money. This is our children’s future they are giv­ing away and all for a lie. Unbe­liev­able. In Aus­tralia these clowns wouldn’t dare do this because if they did there would be a hol­i­day at Her Majesties expense wait­ing for them. Just wait till all the costs start to hit every­one in the mid­dle of next win­ter. What a pack of lying thiev­ing idiots we have run­ning this coun­try. We need a NO CONFIDENCE box on the bal­lot paper next election.

todd November 24, 2009 at 1:07 am

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I have to agree with medi­atart.
<Prin­ci­ples are for losers.>
She has invented a new catch phrase for National

Spectator November 24, 2009 at 1:14 am

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how funny, Maori have learnt how to play the game of pol­i­tics and sud­denly that same wheel­ing and deal­ing that has left ALL Maori des­ti­tute and broke is ‘dark­ened’ and ‘cor­rupt’
You hyp­ocrites – we see through your thinly veiled “big-brother-knows-best” racism

Of course we will dis­agree with each other, do not try to paint non-Maori as being the agree­able Osbourne fam­ily of pol­i­tics. This site is built on disagreement.

Cactus Kate November 24, 2009 at 2:22 am

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Now guess who is back? Hone! He traded re-admission for sup­port on vot­ing for emissions.

jabba November 24, 2009 at 3:38 pm

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some prick got through my so called Secu­rity Sys­tem on Fri­day and fkd my new PC .. hope­fully sorted today, Bstd.
Any­way, 1/ get rid of John Key and bring in? 2/ The Nats will be gone at the next elec­tion, Labour will get power back (with the Greens) and Mr Goof will be PM.
shit hot .. good call guys .. be care­ful what you wish for.

erikter November 24, 2009 at 3:24 am

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What the nats need to do is ditch Smith and the ETS, as a first step. The deal with the Maori Party is a life­line to the opposition.

I’d hate to see Labour in power in 2011, but it’s areal pos­si­bil­ity if the weak John Key con­tin­ues to fum­ble the ball.

naylor November 24, 2009 at 3:50 am

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Oh how con­ve­nient that Hone is now allowed back inside the tent. What’s the bet that Sharples was try­ing to get on the big bird to Auck­land in order to receive first hand the size­able koha from his iwi back­ers. They must be laugh­ing all the way to the bank, if they make it that far.

Where are the photos?

PaulL November 24, 2009 at 5:55 am

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Now is the time for the Maori party to try to get a deal that works for all Maori. Which would be a car­bon tax. Inter­est­ingly, that deal would work for all NZers too – and ACT and the Greens would both sup­port it.

If we had ACT, the Greens, and the Maori Party all say­ing “we want a car­bon tax”, which of Labour or National would give it to them? Or will National and Labour form the grand coali­tion to pass it?

spectator November 26, 2009 at 7:12 pm

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Last one for you again thor, where in my blog did I ask for Maori not to be crit­i­cised? I don’t quite know what you are on about? I have an idea that you don’t either? School your­self racist.

spectator November 26, 2009 at 6:52 pm

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Crit­i­cism is fine – it’s wel­come in fact fool (thor42) but before you crit­i­cise, check your­self that you haven’t been doing exactly the same wheel­ing, deal­ing and theiv­ing for years.
Be as hon­est as you want fool.

specatator November 26, 2009 at 6:55 pm

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I don’t expect one rule for Maori, but when Maori start play­ing by ‘your’ rules, sud­denly those rules become ‘dark­ened’ and ‘cor­rupt’ – so is that how the ‘real world of busi­ness and pol­i­tics’ acts? Maori are not exempt from crit­i­cism, in fact your blogs and media ensure we are tar­geted daily.
So how do you respond to that thor42 – igno­rant idiot!

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