Now you might be thinking that I am mad in thanking Joris De Bres but he has finally cleared up a few mis-conceptions with his statement today, and for that I thank him.
Commissioner Joris de Bres says unlike students wearing Nazi uniforms or schoolboys bowing to a swastika Mr Harawira’s comments are not a breach of the Human Rights Act, because he is entitled to freedom of expression.
That’s right, “freedom of expression”. That means when I talk about Shane Kawenata Bradbrook, I can call him a “lazy good for nothing troughing black c**t”. There is not one thing that anyone can do about it because I am simply “entitled” to my freedom of expression.
Or Cactus Kate when she describes Andrew “The Crook” Krukziener as the “little Jew”, she likewise is simply “entitled” her freedom of expression.
Or if DPF’s disgusting, hideous mutant Ginga friend calls him a Jew and a Christ Killer, that isn’t offensive either because he is also “entitled” to his own freedom of expression even though he is a disgusting, hideous mutant Ginga.
So for that I thank Mr Joris De Bres and other members of the bro-aucracy for once and for clearing up that racism is simply freedom of expression and no matter how repugnant it is it is one of our inalienable human rights to express it how ever we desire.
I think he has it wrong though on the wearing of strange uniforms and the such because that also is simply a persons freedom of expression much like a tattoo. But then that would also put an end to the silly gang patch ban, because surely those are a person’s right, nay “entitlement” as Joris De Bres says, to freedom of expression.
According to Joris De Bres it is now safe to tell jokes about spics, frogs, tulip-chompers, japies, krauts, niggers, coons, blacks, dagos, wops, wogs, chinks, slopes, chows, plug-sockets, wet backs, coconuts, fobs, freshies and Australians because they are simply our “entitlement” to freedom of expression.
Phew! I am glad we got that settled.
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Cameron.
Full marks. Got it in one. Several actually.
Skewered a useless Commission…and a square cloggy Dutch plug-head….at last, able to be said as justified ‘freedom of expression’.
Sooner he goes, the better.
Come on, John Key….Let this be your first quangocide….Just do it…..!
Jocko
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Jocko, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Read the orginal material, not a third-hand interpretation:
http://www.hrc.co.nz/home/
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I’m nominating Hone for “Coon of the Month”, thats just my “entitlement” to freedom of expression.
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I get the feeling if some white politician from the Act party had referred to brown motherfuckers, that Joris De Bres wouldn’t be giving them the same kind of leeway.
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no doubt
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Whale,
You have it wrong.
The interpretation that I gave was for the benefit of Maori only, not any whitebread motherfucker.
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JMan
Don’t encourage David Garrett to try this please.
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Can’t see us being able to call our dear friend Hone a motherf…..r………
Who would ever dare try it on with Titiwhai and think they would survive? She’s the ultimate black widow! and that’s allowed under the new Harawira Bill of Freedom of Expression
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Good work, this would be a simple deletion of s131 of the Human Rights Act 1993.
131 Inciting racial disharmony
(1) Every person commits an offence and is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months or to a fine not exceeding $7,000 who, with intent to excite hostility or ill-will against, or bring into contempt or ridicule, any group of persons in New Zealand on the ground of the colour, race, or ethnic or national origins of that group of persons,—
(a) Publishes or distributes written matter which is threatening, abusive, or insulting, or broadcasts by means of radio or television words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting; or
(b) Uses in any public place (as defined in section 2(1) of the Summary Offences Act 1981), or within the hearing of persons in any such public place, or at any meeting to which the public are invited or have access, words which are threatening, abusive, or insulting,—
being matter or words likely to excite hostility or ill-will against, or bring into contempt or ridicule, any such group of persons in New Zealand on the ground of the colour, race, or ethnic or national origins of that group of persons.
(2) For the purposes of this section, publishes or distributes and written matter have the meaning given to them in section 61 of this Act.
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No No! That act would still apply to every cultural group and ethnic group EXCEPT Maori.
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Agree. This. like the similar section in the canadian act, needs to be repealed.
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Andrew “The Crook” Krukziener as the “little Jew”. Oh, that one might be defamation, see: Siemer v Stiassny (allegations of impropiety mixed with racist abuse) $1m damages.
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Very sad, but not unexpected.
Still. I think ANYONE accused of racist speech now has a precedent they can quote to justify their free speech.
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When the Maori “Politician” Hone, is permitted to do as he likes, and Dr. Peta Sharples is footing the bill with permission of our P.M., we seem to have lost the integrity we have given the Government credit for.
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Agreed Petal… “Political Correctness” is NOW about flouting all that is decent and ethical…taking advantage of the generosity and open mindedness that has characterised NZ society up until now.
The Hide/Harawera Mandate means that it is “Politically Correct” to ride on other’s money, take holidays on the public purse and openly abuse those who line your pockets and cry “I spit on you!” everytime someone with a different culture, skin colour or view might legitimately question your actions or words. Even those of the same ilk it would seem.
Please don’t tell Cameron, but I’m a teacher… and as someone who earns from the public purse, I don’t ever know of a time when I’ve been able to take my spouse to a conference and get it all paid for… and again, if I ever called my students or fellow professionals (Yes Cameron…some of us are…grin) “MOTHERF…..S” …. I wouldn’t have a job.
Also when I eventually retire after x number of years working on the public purse….I don’t get these free rides on aircraft that these folk do…… or a knighthood…… or free rent…… or a lucrative position overseas….. but silly me…. know my place…. I’m just another “white motherf****** who has been raping lands and ripping folk off for centuries” and I have to accept this because according to Heta Hingston….“There is a Maori way of seeing things and a Pakeha way,” and I’m just a silly Pakeha.
But of course…its ok for Hone…..in fact…its encouraged by many factions of Maoridom and our esteemed Human Rights Comissioner.
Odd thing is…my Maori friends all seem to be embarrassed by Hone’s words and actions over the years and don’t think he speaks for them………..
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Cameron married a teacher so don’t take everything he says about teachers too much to heart as actions speak louder than words
His problem was that some of his teachers at his so called top school were not creative or hard working. Also his style of learning was definately not catered to there.
My daughter like me can cope with the public system but our son like Cam is better served out of it in a more student centred environment where he is free to be creative and study what interests him as well as the basics.
I wish Cam could have had the opportunity our son now enjoys. Like his Dad he is so intelligent it blows me away and his creativity is amazing.
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well put whale..and as another poster said..this sets a precedent. We are all entitled to freedom of expression.
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If anybody thinks that Hawawaira has breached the Human Rights Act, then lodge a complaint. And see if Joris de Bres is right.
As I understand having an ‘opinion’ is not a defence.
But the way it was done as a private email , which was released by another person, could mean the views are not ‘public’
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I heard last night that about twenty people had made complaints.
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I’d be more concerned about that ginga.
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only 20 complaints .. I would have expected 1,000’s. I wonder who the other 19 are.
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I’m one, and I bloody well expect some action.
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Hi all.
I think we made a mistake in legislating against hate. If there is a crime committed, then the issue of motivation can come up in sentencing.
If a KKK man assaults or kills another, they should be convicted of assault or murder. The fact they hated the other is no excuse.
If a poor excuse of a politician insults the ethnicity, gender, preference or religion of another, and this damages the other’s reputation, there are libel laws.
But… legislation against hatred means the racists choose to be oppressed and accuse any who oppose or condemn them of hatred. This is a form of censorship.
The act should be repealed. Forthwith
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Hone Harawira makes no apology for lumping all white folks into one raping pillaging barrel of motherf…….rs. He genuinely believes this. If that is his reasoning, then I have no hesitation in consigning him to being the same violent trash that was Jake the Muss. He’s a violent thug, from a long lineage of meting out violence on folk who disagree with the Harawira way of thinking.
But he does not represent the view of New Zealanders in general, no matter what colour or creed…and should be barred from being a representative in the future. New Zealand is served well by people who question and debate and challenge…but to espouse hate gives him no place as a representative of this wonderfully flawed and unique little nation.
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good on you skillbuilder .. 18 to go.
notamotherf .. have you noticed that many are ignoring the white motherfucker comments and wanking on about the Paris trip .. to use Hone’s classic phrase, I couldn’t give a shit about it, MP’s have been doing that sort of thing for years but I gather JK is trying to change the rules to stop it. I don’t like the idea that a toss pot like Hone can call me a white motherfucker .. I have never meet the guy even though I might me, he doesn’t know that. And shit for brains de Bres HAS to go.
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The whole commission HAS to go.
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Joris De Bres, is nothing more than a hangover from the socialist vision of die Klarkenfhurer, he should offer his resignation. He and his ilk are were never wanted or needed by the NZ public. They were foistered on us by the likes of Klark. She’s gone her flunkies should follow
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Agreed, Chiefsfan73.
I’ll use my “entitlement to freedom of expression” and say that dickhead De Bres should f**k off to New York and join Clark (whom he no doubt worships – probably has a shrine to her).
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I’d rather offer him a pistol, but doubt he’d have the honour to use it.
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How would the slimy little prick square his judgement against the Danish cartoons?
For fuck sakes, do these commie scumbags even try to mask their hypocrisy at all these days?
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I agree Chiefsfan..
Hatespeech laws are removing free speech..Currently going thru in the US..also in the communist republic of the EU…soon criticising islam will be an offense in the UK and Europe. The UN has been banging on about defamation of religion forever…No prizes for guessing which religion will be totally protected.
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Actually, Cameron … no. You’re wrong. You should go to the original material — not difficult to find, since it’s on the HRC front page right now: http://www.hrc.co.nz/home/hrc/newsandissues/
In particular, you might choose to note this bit:
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