A personal message to Brian Tamaki

by Whaleoil on October 29, 2009 · 25 comments

Brian Tamaki needs to read his bible.

The leader of Des­tiny Church, Brian Tamaki, who not long ago anointed him­self bishop of the church he founded, has now pro­claimed him­self the church’s “spir­i­tual father” and des­ig­nated the male mem­bers of the church as “spir­i­tual sons”.

At a spe­cial ser­vice dur­ing the church’s annual con­fer­ence in Auck­land at the week­end, about 700 male mem­bers of the church swore a “covenant oath” of loy­alty and obe­di­ence to Mr Tamaki and were given a “covenant ring” to wear on their right hands.

  1. Psalm 24:4
    He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to an idol or swear by what is false.
    Psalm 24:3–5 (in Context)
  2. Jere­miah 14:14
    Then the LORD said to me, “The prophets are proph­esy­ing lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spo­ken to them. They are proph­esy­ing to you false visions, div­ina­tions, idol­a­tries and the delu­sions of their own minds.
    Jere­miah 14:13–15 (in Context)
  3. Jere­miah 16:19
    O LORD, my strength and my fortress, my refuge in time of dis­tress, to you the nations will come from the ends of the earth and say, “Our fathers pos­sessed noth­ing but false gods, worth­less idols that did them no good.
    Jere­miah 16:18–20 (in Context)
  4. Jere­miah 23:16
    This is what the LORD Almighty says: “Do not lis­ten to what the prophets are proph­esy­ing to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.
    Jere­miah 23:15–17 (in Context)
  5. Jere­miah 23:33
    “When these peo­ple, or a prophet or a priest, ask you, ‘What is the ora­cle of the LORD ?’ say to them, ‘What ora­cle? I will for­sake you, declares the LORD.’
    Jere­miah 23:32–34 (in Context)
  6. Ezekiel 13:9
    My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying div­ina­tions. They will not belong to the coun­cil of my peo­ple or be listed in the records of the house of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sov­er­eign LORD.
    Ezekiel 13:8–10 (in Context)
  7. Zechariah 10:2
    The idols speak deceit, divin­ers see visions that lie; they tell dreams that are false, they give com­fort in vain. There­fore the peo­ple wan­der like sheep oppressed for lack of a shep­herd.
    Zechariah 10:1–3 (in Context)
  1. Matthew 7:15
    [ A Tree and Its Fruit ] “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s cloth­ing, but inwardly they are fero­cious wolves.
    Matthew 7:14–16 (in Context)
  2. Matthew 24:11
    and many false prophets will appear and deceive many peo­ple.
    Matthew 24:10–12 (in Context)
  3. Matthew 24:24
    For false Christs and false prophets will appear and per­form great signs and mir­a­cles to deceive even the elect—if that were pos­si­ble.
    Matthew 24:23–25 (in Context)
  4. Mark 13:22
    For false Christs and false prophets will appear and per­form signs and mir­a­cles to deceive the elect—if that were pos­si­ble.
    Mark 13:21–23 (in Context)
  5. Luke 6:26
    Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated the false prophets.
    Luke 6:25–27 (in Context)
  6. 2 Peter 2:1
    [ False Teach­ers and Their Destruc­tion ] But there were also false prophets among the peo­ple, just as there will be false teach­ers among you. They will secretly intro­duce destruc­tive here­sies, even deny­ing the sov­er­eign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruc­tion on them­selves.
    2 Peter 2:1–3 (in Context)
  7. 1 John 4:1
    [ Test the Spir­its ] Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spir­its to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

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billhicks October 29, 2009 at 2:29 am

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This CULT or looka­like hitler youth move­ment of 700 chest beat­ing fuck­wits are being sucked in by a man who steals there money to pay for his lifestyle.The bible is a bull­shit made up fairytale.A self appointed bishop,why not wiz­ard .700 get a ring….to wear HOW FUCKING STUPID.This man is a leach and a con artist…

Heman74 November 3, 2009 at 8:03 pm

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Through the help of this man and the bible you call a fairy tale ive turned my life around dramatically.From drugs gangs and all sorts of other vio­lence which is lucky for you,because the old me would find you and do ter­ri­ble things to your fam­ily in front of you before mak­ing you sorry for this abuse.May the good Lord bless you you silly boy.

Pedrovsky October 29, 2009 at 2:31 am

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I am feel­ing much more com­fort­able call­ing him ‘Mul­lah Tamaki’ and not ‘Bishop tamaki’.

Inventory2 October 29, 2009 at 2:45 am

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Good selec­tion of scrip­tures WO – the last one is prob­a­bly the most per­ti­nent. I reckon that any­one who has tested Destiny’s doc­trine against scrip­ture would give the place a very wide berth indeed.

alex Masterley October 29, 2009 at 4:18 pm

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I’ve had the mis­for­tune of hear­ing some of Tamaki’s rav­ings.
He wouldn’t recog­nise the scrip­ture if he was made to read it.
Mans’ a charlatan.

jabba October 29, 2009 at 4:44 am

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if the “Bishop” did save all those men then fan­tas­tic BUT bloody hell, are they fuck­ing stu­pid or what? Let’s hope he doesn’t turn out to be NZ’s Jim Jones.

thor42 October 29, 2009 at 6:32 am

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I pre­fer the “Church of the fly­ing spaghetti mon­ster” myself…..
http://www.venganza.org/

jabba October 29, 2009 at 6:54 am

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shit, I just saw the TV3 piece shown last night .. oh oh

mickysavage October 29, 2009 at 8:40 am

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Speak­ing as an Irish Catholic …

Good post Whale.

Tamaki deserves to be grilled for his arro­gance and his insis­tence of privilege

peterwn October 29, 2009 at 9:17 am

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He needs to be told to ‘go forth and multiply.

Auckland SDA October 29, 2009 at 9:25 am

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Im Glad you have used some old tes­ta­ment verses, most have thown it away aready and only stuck to a quar­ter of the bible. You’ve been hang­ing out with to many SDA’s. Good Post!

billhicks October 29, 2009 at 10:09 am

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PROFIT not bib­li­cal but conman.Cambell live have finely done some real journalism.Pure fuck­ing gold………………………….. http://www.3news.co.nz/Destiny-Churchs-inner-work...

Senior Pastor Brian Tamariki October 29, 2009 at 4:54 pm

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Den­sity Church Has Arisen From The Dead!

Hal­lelu­jah at the power of res-erection!

Our spank­ing brand new site is here at http://DensityChurch.net/

Yours in the Spaghetti Mon­ster, Lord High Bishop Brian Tamariki

Adolf Fiinkensein October 29, 2009 at 4:57 pm

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Good grief!

I am God”

It’s a dis­as­ter wait­ing to happen.

DONKEY October 29, 2009 at 8:05 pm

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the guy is in show busi­ness i reckon – his bros run the rotorua maori expe­ri­ence and he runs the chruch maori expe­ri­ence – i loved how he said one thing on TV1 and another on TV3 – the only sav­ing grace of this con artist is at least he pray­ing on his own kind rather than the rest of us

Hagues October 29, 2009 at 10:38 pm

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Right on Whale, don’t for­get the pas­sage in 1 Cor 3:1–9 where Paul addresses the church about their dis­putes over which leader they fol­low – and admon­ishes them that all they are are equal work­ers for God and it is God they should be fol­low­ing. The lead­ers are only God’s ser­vants doing God’s work.

crabby October 30, 2009 at 3:26 am

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off with his fucken head!

Spanishbride October 30, 2009 at 4:31 am

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I have always thought that the Des­tiny church was a busi­ness and a very effec­tive busi­ness at that.
He should be a CEO not a Bishop and should get a bonus each year depend­ing on the % of tithes or bums on seats he man­aged to achieve. At least then it would be an hon­est approach and his lux­ury cruises and house and cars wouldn’t offend any­one.
He could fran­chise it. I could buy the man­ual and become Bishop Juana. None of the women I reigned over could critizise me and if I said does my bum look big in this? they would all respond, heav­ens no bishop Juana you look Fab­u­lous and thin….

Thomas October 30, 2009 at 10:22 pm

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Much has been said lately in regard to what Brian Tamaki has been up to, some of it in sup­port & some against.
But from where I sit the bot­tom line of it is that Brian Tamaki is sim­ply using chris­tian­ity & the name of the lord etc to rip off a very gullible sec­tion our society….yes rip­ping them off blind, on an obvi­ous mis­sions to extract every last dol­lar & cent from them, & the sad thing is that if has been work­ing.
I would com­pare Tamaki with some of the more well known evangilists & so-called preach­ers in the United Stated such as Benny Hinn, Joycy Meyer & Creto Dol­lar etc…yes dol­lar is his name.
Now all the above men­tioned have attracted close scutiny from the Amer­i­can ‘inland rev­enue ser­vice’ to such an ext­tent that a spe­cial team of tax experts was set up to inves­ti­gage just exactly what is hap­pen­ing with all the money, & are taxes being paid that should be…your guess is a good as mine.
Where do you think all these multi mil­lions dol­lar houses & pri­vate jets etc come from?
Any­how I think that it is time that the New Zealand inland rev­enue ser­vice here do like­wise & have a very close lookl at Mr Tamaki.

Cruiz November 1, 2009 at 9:47 am

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Its out of it how peo­ple believe that he is GOD. So i can say im jesus but you wouln’t believe me but those that walk in the shad­ows of death believes that brian is GOD.

Cruiz November 1, 2009 at 10:01 am

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A real man gets his own stuff doesnt count on another per­son to help him. works hard to help out his own fam­ily and sorry about that last com­ment. well i reckon they shouldnt sell there homes and make a per­son homless

Thomas November 3, 2009 at 10:04 pm

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Brain Tamaki is now get­ting more des­per­ate by telling his flock not to lis­ten to those non-believers out there, who have been lev­el­ling crit­i­cizen, well for what it’s worth I am a strong believer, & so are many of the peo­ple I have heard speak­ing against what he is doing, & how he is doing it.
Also, who on this earth does Tamaki think he is to ask his fol­low­ers to sur­prize him with gifts….not isn’t that just down right arrogance…..yes for Brian it’s all about me!!

... November 22, 2009 at 8:03 am

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Fail Maori

I'm not blind November 22, 2009 at 10:10 am

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He is a busi­ness­man, noth­ing more, noth­ing less. Brian’s in sales and exceeds his tar­gets every month earn­ing monthly bonuses. He should sell Amway.

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